What ACL package for FluxBB 2?

JoshyPHP · 2014-11-17 19:36:46

This one's for Franz. I'm looking into Laravel's ACL packages and it made me wonder, do you know which ACL package you're going to use for FluxBB 2?

Franz · 2014-11-17 22:29:55

Haven't looked into any of them yet. Is there one you can recommend?

JoshyPHP · 2014-11-17 22:45:30

Nope, I don't know any of them actually and there's quite a few of them too! That's why I was hoping you had already chosen one.

I noticed that the access control packages associated with PHP frameworks often are of the RBAC variety and I was wondering whether it was a good fit for forum software. Although on second thought, the roles within a forum are well defined (admins, mods, a few special groups) and it must be rare to set special permissions on individuals.

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Sxderp · 2014-11-18 15:07:08

Is the granularity associated with complete integration of ACL (individual permissions) necessary for a forum? I'd figure that group level permissions should be enough. I don't know how much extra work is required for individual permissions but I figured I'd just throw this out there.

Franz · 2014-11-18 23:18:46

Granular controls for groups is what I want, and I want to be able to assign my users to multiple groups. What do you think?

chris98 · 2014-11-19 09:30:50

I want to be able to assign my users to multiple groups.

What's the point in assigning users to multiple groups? You need a primary group for their permissions, so what can you get out of the second group that you can't get just out of one?

Don't get me wrong, I just can't understand what the second group would actually be used for.

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Sxderp · 2014-11-19 13:50:02

I share Chris's sentiment on multiple groups.
However, I can jump on the bandwagon for more control over groups and would like to see an inheritance system.

Mod inherits from senior member + can do stuff
Senior member inherits from member + can do stuff
Member inherits from guest + can do stuff
Guest can view forum

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JoshyPHP · 2014-11-20 01:15:13

That's weird, all of the ACL packages I've seen seem role-based and permissions are never scoped. Applied to forum software, that would mean that you only have global moderators, you couldn't assign different moderators to different forums.

chris98 wrote:

What's the point in assigning users to multiple groups? You need a primary group for their permissions, so what can you get out of the second group that you can't get just out of one?

It's useful for big boards. Many boards have a restricted forum for their old regulars. I guess that's what Sxderp calls "senior members." In international forums, you can have different teams of moderators for different languages.

Sxderp · 2014-11-20 12:49:42

Alright I have found a case in which you'd need to be in two groups.

Group A has mod powers in forums a b c d
Group B has mod powers in forums e f g h
Group C has mod powers in forums i j k l

Then you want member A to have mod powers in a b c d i j k l.
Rather than making a new group you assign them to groups A and C. The problem is what group permission has priorty. The setting the provides the most freedom?'

chris98 · 2014-11-20 15:26:01

Hmm. Well, I can kind of understand it now then.

Franz · 2014-11-24 10:48:09

This is a promising new ACL package:
https://github.com/BeatSwitch/lock

Sxderp · 2014-11-25 16:40:59

It looks good and pretty easy to use but do you really want to start integrating a package that hasn't had a 'stable' release?

Franz · 2014-11-25 21:43:15

I'll talk to Dries, he might get it to stable before we do.

Sxderp · 2014-12-01 13:48:55

Franz wrote:

I'll talk to Dries, he might get it to stable before we do.

Did you send a message to him? If so, did he respond?

Franz · 2014-12-01 13:50:41

Yes, he did. See here: https://twitter.com/franzliedke/status/ … 5359343616

Sxderp · 2014-12-01 14:00:54

Looks good. I think it looks promising for a forum. Do you think that integrating the ACL will speed up the work on group and user management?

Franz · 2014-12-01 14:02:35

Most definitely.

But then I can't roll my own.

driesvints · 2015-01-07 12:33:31

Please let me know if you need any help with setting Lock up for FluxBB. I'd gladly help out

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