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#26 2012-05-21 12:40:49

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#27 2012-06-10 21:15:17

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Franz wrote:

Well, they are in the same group already, but their ranks (which determine the "title" that is displayed underneath their username) will be deleted.

You can then re-create those in the way arw described.

Why you didn't transform ranks into groups based on the member, or put a screen giving a chance to adin to choose an option do transform or not ranks into groups ?

It was a key feature for my forum.. animating it.
Imagine someone having about 30 ranks to re-type..

Moreover, I don't understand very well the parameter :
"You can promote users to a new group automatically if they reach a certain number of posts."
If I put 20, is it :
When he comes into the group, and post 20 messages, the member is promoted
OR the member reach 20 posts in total, then he is promoted  ?

If it's the second version, is this field unique ?

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#28 2012-06-10 21:38:25

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Also, before, with the ranking system, you could promote someone without changing his permissions.
For instance, if I want to put someone Moderator, but I still want let him with his rank of 100 messages, I can't anymore, because the rank is directly linked to the group.

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#29 2012-06-10 21:54:48

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Capripot wrote:

Moreover, I don't understand very well the parameter :
"You can promote users to a new group automatically if they reach a certain number of posts."
If I put 20, is it :
When he come into the group, and post 20 messages, the member is promoted
OR the member reach 20 posts in total, the he is promoted  ?

20 posts in total. Good point, I created a ticket, so this text will be improved in the next version.

Capripot wrote:

If it's the second version, is this field unique ?

What do you mean by "unique" in this case?

Capripot wrote:

Also, before, with the ranking system, you could promote someone without changing his permissions.
For instance, if I want to put someone Moderator, but I still want let him with his rank of 100 messages, I can't anymore, because the rank is directly linked to the group.

Not a problem at all. Just copy a group and you have a group with the same permissions.


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#30 2012-06-10 22:04:41

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Franz wrote:
Capripot wrote:

Moreover, I don't understand very well the parameter :
"You can promote users to a new group automatically if they reach a certain number of posts."
If I put 20, is it :
When he come into the group, and post 20 messages, the member is promoted
OR the member reach 20 posts in total, the he is promoted  ?

20 posts in total. Good point, I created a ticket, so this text will be improved in the next version.

Merci smile

Franz wrote:
Capripot wrote:

If it's the second version, is this field unique ?

What do you mean by "unique" in this case?

I'm just still in the ranking way of thinking. The grid was unique. It was just not so clear, but it's ok now.


Franz wrote:
Capripot wrote:

Also, before, with the ranking system, you could promote someone without changing his permissions.
For instance, if I want to put someone Moderator, but I still want let him with his rank of 100 messages, I can't anymore, because the rank is directly linked to the group.

Not a problem at all. Just copy a group and you have a group with the same permissions.

Yes, it's a workarround.
But imagine :
I've got groups: Admin, Moderators level 1, Moderators level 2, Moderators level 3, Validators (5 groups in total)
And I've got 25 ranks position baed of the number of messages,
It means, I have to create 5*25 = 125 groups to cover all posibilities (in theory) if I want someone being in a certain group but still keeping the rank corresponding to posts number.

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#31 2012-06-10 22:10:57

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Yeah, sorry, it's not ideal, I realize that. We'll have to find a better way to mix group promotion and ranks, but not before 2.x, I'm afraid.


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#32 2012-06-10 22:13:05

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Franz wrote:

Yeah, sorry, it's not ideal, I realize that. We'll have to find a better way to mix group promotion and ranks, but not before 2.x, I'm afraid.

Well, it's done now, we'll manage it.
But I don't understand why you deleted the ranking system. The two are additionals, aren't ?

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#33 2012-06-10 22:53:55

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

To update users' group without waiting each user posts a new message (and if he should be in the 3rd hierachical group, he have to post 3 messages to reach the right group, because he will go just to the "next group" each time [see post.php#418]),

you can execute this request (it's MySQL without any table prefix, certainly needs updates for you) :

UPDATE 
  users 
SET 
  users.group_id = (
    SELECT
      groups.g_id
    FROM 
      groups 
    WHERE 
      groups.g_promote_min_posts > users.num_posts 
      AND groups.g_id >= 4 
    ORDER BY 
      groups.g_promote_min_posts
    LIMIT 1
  )
WHERE 
  users.group_id NOT IN (0,1,2,3);

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#34 2012-06-11 07:40:28

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Cool...........


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#35 2012-06-11 21:55:53

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Capripot wrote:
Franz wrote:

Well, they are in the same group already, but their ranks (which determine the "title" that is displayed underneath their username) will be deleted.

You can then re-create those in the way arw described.

Why you didn't transform ranks into groups based on the member, or put a screen giving a chance to adin to choose an option do transform or not ranks into groups ?

It was a key feature for my forum.. animating it.
Imagine someone having about 30 ranks to re-type..

I agree.
We have got 26 ranks in our forum (yes, may be strange, but what? I use ranks for ranks, it was the aim of ranks! It's not a key feature, but it is a funny one, as rank values and names we are using comes from the the same domain as the forum target domain). So I do not use, nor like 1.5 sad

I agree that ranks can be considered not being a "core" function for a forum, OK.
I agree you could/should think about removing ranks from the core, OK.
But not like this... Not without providing a mod doing exactly the same thing, not merging group function with anti-spam function, not saying that ranks can be done with groups (bad idea, it's two very different function! And I already use groups for other reasons).
I think it was a too fast modification, made without enough though, and not taking into account the entire fluxBB community...
Now I don't know what to do. Sad sad
I think that at the end, I will remove ranks and use 1.5, as I do not have any other choice...

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#36 2012-06-12 07:01:07

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

And I don't understand why you disable the rank feature with the addition of the auto-promote one :
- Rank, it's only changing the title of the member
- Auto-promotion, it's changing the group of the member, so his permissions

They totally can be used in parallel hmm


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#37 2012-06-12 07:46:03

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Hi,

I fully support the views of François.
Both are necessary because they have different aims.


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#38 2012-06-13 11:25:07

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

François wrote:

And I don't understand why you disable the rank feature with the addition of the auto-promote one :
- Rank, it's only changing the title of the member
- Auto-promotion, it's changing the group of the member, so his permissions

They totally can be used in parallel hmm

I agree because I did so when upgrading from 1.4.8 to 1.5 without deleting the ranks features : it's working well.

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#39 2012-06-17 01:40:45

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

From the release announcement:

Franz wrote:

Our focus for this release lay on new anti-spam features, which allow you to . This, in combination ...

Allows what?

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#40 2012-06-17 09:08:30

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Thanks, fixed now:

I wrote:

Our focus for this release lay on new anti-spam features, which allow you to disallow posting links on a per-group basis. This, in combination with the possibility to automatically promote users to another group once they reach a certain number of posts, is quite a simple way to demotivate spammers.

That's what you get for not writing posts like that all at once...


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#41 2012-06-28 21:06:58

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Sry for being late on this reaction…

For me, FluxBB is STUCK on 1.4.x. Till 2.x.
That's what u annonced before, and i will respect that philosophy (and ur later words…). So, no way for an 1.5 or 1.6, etc….

I've read your explanations about "principles" on the "major/minor" version numbers.
It's just bullshit.
Your changes (about anti-spam) are JUST a MOD, too bad u didn't consider it as that (note : and that's make rather funny some of ur answers to people who want to include things into the core, "let's make a mod for this"…).

=> The "official latest" version on FluxBB.fr WOULD STILL 1.4.x.
(and personnally, my mods would NEVER been updated for 1.5.x).

I'm just waiting for the 2.x branch… wink
(as most of us).

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#42 2012-06-29 13:29:30

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Yeah, you're right, but in 1.5.0 have been many bugs fixed.

(and personnally, my mods would NEVER been updated for 1.5.x).

You must update it! smile

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#43 2012-06-29 19:38:10

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Mpok wrote:

Sry for being late on this reaction…

For me, FluxBB is STUCK on 1.4.x. Till 2.x.
That's what u annonced before, and i will respect that philosophy (and ur later words…). So, no way for an 1.5 or 1.6, etc….

I've read your explanations about "principles" on the "major/minor" version numbers.
It's just bullshit.
Your changes (about anti-spam) are JUST a MOD, too bad u didn't consider it as that (note : and that's make rather funny some of ur answers to people who want to include things into the core, "let's make a mod for this"…).

=> The "official latest" version on FluxBB.fr WOULD STILL 1.4.x.
(and personnally, my mods would NEVER been updated for 1.5.x).

I'm just waiting for the 2.x branch… wink
(as most of us).

Than I think you can waite a long time. On te speed the development of FluxBB 2.0 is going, it's finished somewhere in 2015...

I mean, since 6 may, there are only fixed 2 bugs in version 1.5.x. That's an average of 1 fix per month. In total there are closed 5 tickets (2 for 1.5.1, 3 for 2.0alpha1) and that's an average of 2,5 fixes per month. Not something to be proud on?

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#44 2012-06-29 22:21:18

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Come on, be patient.

I have about three more weeks of college, then holiday, and then I have a nice announcement to make. You can be excited. smile

I have been playing around with some cool stuff behind the scenes.


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#45 2012-07-03 15:30:41

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Franz wrote:

Come on, be patient.

I have about three more weeks of college, then holiday, and then I have a nice announcement to make. You can be excited. smile

I have been playing around with some cool stuff behind the scenes.

And what is it? smile

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#46 2012-07-03 15:41:35

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Just wait for the announcement. Not long. smile


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#47 2012-07-04 21:18:03

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Re: FluxBB 1.5.0 released

Franz wrote:

Just wait for the announcement. Not long. smile

The development of FluxBB was today more active then the development of WordPress! Wow! big_smile

By the way, devers: look at this ticket please: http://fluxbb.org/development/site/tick … m1dnz58029

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