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#1 2012-07-10 14:35:11

Franz
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Admin panel redesign

In order to make progress fast, and because it would simplify themes and extensions in 2.0, I have a suggestion:

We could redesign the admin panel right away, and simply style it very FluxBB-ish, essentially unaffected by frontend themes.

That way, we could get this done rather quickly and buy some time for redoing the frontend styling...

What do you guys think?


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#2 2012-07-10 15:16:47

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Re: Admin panel redesign

Franz wrote:

We could redesign the admin panel right away, and simply style it very FluxBB-ish, essentially unaffected by frontend themes.

Hi,
I give, without exception, my total agreement for an admin panel independent of the style of the forum.


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#3 2012-07-10 15:34:35

Paul
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Re: Admin panel redesign

There has never been a good reason for the admin panel to pick up the front end themes.  I've always thought of it essentially as an applicaiton in its own right.  If anything, allowing alternative styles compromises the design.  Having said that, there is no reason why, somewhere down the line, alternative colour schemes couldn't be permitted but that is something that is easy to implement.

At this stage I wouldn't even both trying to "design" it.  Rather concentrate on organising it.  I would have thought most of it can be built with Laravels form generator.  For testing purposes it doesn't matter if it looks like unstyled html.  It can always be made to look good later.


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#4 2012-07-10 15:48:58

Franz
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Re: Admin panel redesign

Yeah, I guess I was meaning to structure it.

I think I will push that to alpha2, though, as it will need some discussion.
The question is, then, whether we want to port any of the admin panel over to Laravel for alpha1. I'd say no.


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#5 2012-07-10 16:00:15

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Re: Admin panel redesign

I would also say no.  You will end up with a better result if you start from scratch working with Laravel rather than trying to make Laravel work with what we already have.


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#6 2012-08-07 22:40:32

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Re: Admin panel redesign

So, Paul, are you interested in coming up with a nice (general) structure for the new admin panel?


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#7 2012-08-08 01:38:24

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Re: Admin panel redesign

First of all it would be interesting to know what users like and dislike about about the current structure.  In particular what new users find confusing.

I know the things I dislike. I particularly dislike having to create a forum then edit it rather than being able to do it all at once.  I also tend to think that permissions and options should be attached to whatever task is being performed rather than simply being set out in long lists.

I would be inclined to use jquery quite extensively in the admin panel particularly show/hide functionality.  That way you can make the admin console very lean and mean exposing advanced settings on demand.

Last edited by Paul (2012-08-08 01:49:01)


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#8 2012-08-08 05:34:37

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Re: Admin panel redesign

I agree with Paul. One of my biggest hiccup about the admin panel is not being able to create a forum and edit it as the same time of creation, its not huge but it would be so much simpler rather than having to edit it after creation.

Also like the theme was said, the admin panel should stand-alone and be an independent style and not be affected by the boards style.


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#9 2012-08-08 13:03:39

Franz
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Re: Admin panel redesign

I agree about the forum creation thingy (there is a ticket about it).

However, I was asking more about general structure. Things like how to split the options page (which you kind of mentioned). Basically coming up with the (sub)menu items for the new admin panel.

I agree that some settings can be moved to more fitting places.


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#10 2012-08-08 13:22:20

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Re: Admin panel redesign

Franz wrote:

I agree about the forum creation thingy (there is a ticket about it).

However, I was asking more about general structure. Things like how to split the options page (which you kind of mentioned). Basically coming up with the (sub)menu items for the new admin panel.

I agree that some settings can be moved to more fitting places.

I've tickets createn about that:
http://fluxbb.org/development/core/tickets/715/
http://fluxbb.org/development/core/tickets/716/

Also, you can put the "Maintenance" options in the page "Maintenance".

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#11 2012-08-08 13:26:18

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Re: Admin panel redesign

Yes, but please wait with tickets for ideas until they are discussed a bit by the community.

So better post ideas to the forum first wink


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#12 2012-08-08 14:09:24

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Re: Admin panel redesign

Add function  database copy.


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#13 2012-08-14 16:30:38

Franz
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Re: Admin panel redesign

So here's a first suggestion for the new admin menu structure:

  • Dashboard

  • Content

    • Forums (create & manage subforums)

  • Users

    • Manage users

    • Groups

    • Permissions

    • Bans???

  • Moderation

    • Reports

    • Censoring

    • Bans???

  • Settings

    • Global

    • Email

    • everything else...

    • Maintenance

  • Extensions

    • Install

    • Manage (installed ones)

How's that for a first version? Comments, suggestions?


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#14 2012-08-14 16:55:36

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Re: Admin panel redesign

I like this layout, its got more of an administration panel feeling to the current one. Thumbs up! smile


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#15 2012-08-14 17:04:39

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Re: Admin panel redesign

Oh, if you could only see what I want it to look like... you'd be even more excited. big_smile


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#16 2012-08-14 17:42:22

François
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Re: Admin panel redesign

Can't wait to see how you'll handle the categories/forums/subforums part in FluxBB 2.0


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#17 2012-08-14 18:11:38

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Re: Admin panel redesign

This seems good to me.  If I think of anything in the future I'll be sure to add my two cents.

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#18 2012-08-14 18:13:59

123
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Re: Admin panel redesign

Franz wrote:

So here's a first suggestion for the new admin menu structure:

  • Dashboard

  • Content

    • Forums (create & manage subforums)

  • Users

    • Manage users

    • Groups

    • Permissions

    • Bans???

  • Moderation

    • Reports

    • Censoring

    • Bans???

  • Settings

    • Global

    • Email

    • everything else...

    • Maintenance

  • Extensions

    • Install

    • Manage (installed ones)

How's that for a first version? Comments, suggestions?

Dashboard

       Update (checks for available updates)

       Notes ( notes for admin )

       Fast forum backup

       reported spam

Content

        Forums (create & manage subforums)

        BBcode

        Smile

        Permissions

Users

        Manage users

        Groups

        Permissions

        Bans???

        Censoring

        Reports

       
Settings

        Global

        Maintenance

        Logs

        everything else...

Appearance

      Add new styl

      Edit styles

      Edit templates


Extensions

        Install

        Manage (installed ones)

Last edited by 123 (2012-08-14 18:15:19)


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#19 2012-08-14 21:51:20

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Re: Admin panel redesign

I'm missing the location for statistics...

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#20 2012-08-15 07:47:18

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Re: Admin panel redesign

Franz wrote:

So here's a first suggestion for the new admin menu structure:

  • Dashboard

  • Content

    • Forums (create & manage subforums)

  • Users

    • Manage users

    • Groups

    • Permissions

    • Bans???

  • Moderation

    • Reports

    • Censoring

    • Bans???

  • Settings

    • Global

    • Email

    • everything else...

    • Maintenance

  • Extensions

    • Install

    • Manage (installed ones)

How's that for a first version? Comments, suggestions?

Ooh, I like that. I personally think Bans belongs more in Moderation, I can't really explain why though...

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#21 2012-08-15 09:58:00

123
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Re: Admin panel redesign


Solidarity = compensation for war. Time to pay.
[img]http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img633/7813/XjQh8f.png[/img]
Ach, lekceważyłaś wolę króla
a w nocy naszego spotkania, śmiałaś się do łez

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#22 2012-08-15 14:00:53

Franz
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Re: Admin panel redesign

I just added a wiki page with the current structure (I merged some suggestions and got rid of the "moderation" tab.

Please comment on that page from now on. You can also comment there, but please only edit the actual structure in that document if enough people vote for a change in this topic!


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#23 2012-08-18 20:06:04

jacob
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Re: Admin panel redesign

I applied one of the suggestions to my forums, and it would look like this:
LMMRD.png

Also, note that I have a few plugins installed.

Last edited by jacob (2012-08-18 20:06:29)


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#24 2012-08-19 10:53:50

123
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Re: Admin panel redesign

A tablet what. Admin Panel more working on touch screen.


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[img]http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img633/7813/XjQh8f.png[/img]
Ach, lekceważyłaś wolę króla
a w nocy naszego spotkania, śmiałaś się do łez

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#25 2012-08-19 17:46:19

AlexCogn
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Re: Admin panel redesign

You should add an export within content, you should note that people use the same Hashkey in their configuration.

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