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#51 2010-01-31 16:17:50

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Luca wrote:

Google doesn't decide wich browser a lambda web surfer will use! Microsoft does it! The fact is that IE6 still used by some users, so, this should be taken in account wink


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#52 2010-01-31 16:49:31

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

I would also have thought the people using IE6 are also the people who are least likely to be using the Google services to which this relates.


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#53 2010-02-08 17:09:36

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Can we get ID's added to the class=inform's on register.php?

Or the class="required" moved from the label and onto the div, so that an entire div form element can be hidden if not required?

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#54 2010-02-08 17:20:04

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Do you really want to be hiding elements just because they aren't mandatory? :s

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#55 2010-02-08 17:42:43

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

1. If you hid the items on the registration form doesn't that require a code change to set default values?

2. I'm not keen on making changes just for one script either.

3. I would have thought hiding form fields on the registration form would disqualify the style from being considered as a default.


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#56 2010-02-09 13:46:22

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

If something isn't required then why is it shown? smile

display:none will still submit the default values selected for Timezone/Privacy etc so no other code changes should be required, and as the description says:

Once you are registered you should visit your profile and review the different settings you can change. The fields below only make up a small part of all the settings you can alter in your profile.

It's no big deal if you'd rather not change the core as I can always just add the IDs in myself when needed, though I do think others could find a use for the IDs as it would allow some unique registration forms to be designed smile

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#57 2010-02-09 13:50:25

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

downliner wrote:

If something isn't required then why is it shown? smile

Just because something isn't mandatory doesn't mean it isn't useful or wanted. If you want to make a skin for yourself with non required fileds hidden then that is cool, but if you want to enter it into the competition please let the core decide which fields to present to users, not the skin.

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#58 2010-02-09 15:43:16

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Though whether or not those fields should be on the registration form in the first place is another matter, but thats a discussion for another time and another version.


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#59 2010-02-09 16:01:30

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Reines wrote:

[...] but if you want to enter it into the competition please let the core decide which fields to present to users, not the skin.

#announce {
    display:none;
    }

#punindex #announce {
    display:block;
    }

Would something like this get me disqualified also? sad

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#60 2010-02-09 16:06:48

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Interesting question.  You haven't killed a feature completely,  just made a design choice how and where it is displayed. Personally I would say thats alright but its not my call.


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#61 2010-02-09 16:56:43

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Paul wrote:

Interesting question.  You haven't killed a feature completely,  just made a design choice how and where it is displayed. Personally I would say thats alright but its not my call.

Timezone and privacy settings haven't been killed either though, they're still available through profile.php, but hidden on register.php to help make the initial registration process easier for users smile

I don't need the ID's specifically for my competition skin entry, I was writing some drag-and-drop CSS so that any skin would be able to have a minimalised login/registration page. Realised how much cleaner the code would be if whole divs could be hidden instead of only its contents. Sure they'd have other uses too though, eg background images etc

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#62 2010-02-11 21:21:18

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

If you need to "burn" the images into flat non-transparent images in Technetium as part of the tweaks to make it "fully" IE6 compatible, you may. I was just following a trend both vBulletin and IPB are doing (transparent PNG overlays for gradients)

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#63 2010-02-11 21:23:43

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#64 2010-02-14 12:32:00

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

I like this, this means at least the fluxbb team is working! smile  I mean like the punbb team hasn't worked in a year, but the fluxbb team is always workin big_smile


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#65 2010-02-15 10:35:41

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Reines wrote:
downliner wrote:

If something isn't required then why is it shown? smile

Just because something isn't mandatory doesn't mean it isn't useful or wanted. If you want to make a skin for yourself with non required fileds hidden then that is cool, but if you want to enter it into the competition please let the core decide which fields to present to users, not the skin.

Did you see that in the defaulkt skin there are some parts that have been hidden ? In oxygen.css for example:

.pun fieldset .rbox br {
    display: none;
    }

In the earlier oxygen.css, I remember the legend tags where not displayed, and other stuff (the h2 tag in the index page I think)... You have to take this in account Reines because the designer looked to this stylesheets before beginning with the competition work!

[edit]
I found the hidden titles in oxygen.css (on line 52):

/* Hidden Elements
----------------------------------------------------------------*/

#brdfooter h2, #brdstats h2, #brdstats .conl dt, #brdstats .conr dt,
#modcontrols dt, #searchlinks dt, div.postright h3, span.closedtext {
    position: absolute;
    display: block;
    overflow: hidden;
    width: 0;
    left: -9999em;
    text-indent: -9999em;
    }

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#66 2010-02-15 10:40:48

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Fair point. Though your example is a line break so it's not hiding anything, only making things appear on the one line. It's maybe arguable but I'd also say hiding a descriptive heading isn't really in the same category as disabling a feature.

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#67 2010-02-15 12:39:20

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

It has to be remembered that certain items exist mainly to preserve semantics and/for for accessibility reasons and were always intended to be hidden.

What it really comes down to is that hiding something that is merely descriptive is fine but hidding something functional isn't e.g. hiding the label on the quickjump menu is ok but hiding the whole quickjump menu isn't.


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#68 2010-02-15 15:17:53

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Paul wrote:

It has to be remembered that certain items exist mainly to preserve semantics and/for for accessibility reasons and were always intended to be hidden.

What it really comes down to is that hiding something that is merely descriptive is fine but hidding something functional isn't e.g. hiding the label on the quickjump menu is ok but hiding the whole quickjump menu isn't.

Ok, this is a good point of view (in my opinion), I guess I misunderstood the problem above wink

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#69 2010-02-15 22:10:27

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Ah! I wish I had know earlier about this competition (I haven’t had need for a visit in a long time here since I don’t run a forum anymore). The last day of February is near, but I think I’m gonna take a shot at this anyway. At the very least it’ll be interesting to try. FluxBB is my first choice for forum software by far so it’d be great to contribute where I can (excuse the brown nosing tongue).

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#70 2010-02-15 22:19:40

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Grimmeh wrote:

FluxBB is my first choice for forum software by far so it’d be great to contribute where I can (excuse the brown nosing tongue).

Ah, it's good to hear sometimes big_smile

And as stated in the first post of this topic, we won't rip your head off if your style isn't 100% complete (e.g. some advanced browser compatibility issues or minor markup stuff) by the end of the competition. If the idea of the style looks good already, you'll probably have some more days to finish it wink Plus, it will probably take a few days to decide on the winner...


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#71 2010-02-16 01:31:33

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Damn, I feel bad for blurting all that out. Now I realize the chance I could make anything good in a week (this week) are close to none. sad I really wanted to have a go at this, but I suppose I could still just develop a separate theme. tongue We'll see…

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#72 2010-02-18 14:41:55

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

This is the last day everoyene so if you have a skin done you should enter it it to  competition@fluxbb.org or if you haven't it a skin done, you should finish it fast today and enter it to  competition@fluxbb.org, because this is the last of the competition. After this day fluxbb 1.4 and the skin will be out. 

Remember the winner wins €50 (~$70) of cash price  (payable via Paypal only).


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#73 2010-02-18 14:44:01

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

What? The deadline is the last day in February, there's over a week left. Also 1.4 won't be out instantly after it closes, we need time to decide on a skin and tidy anything up and test it before we can release a final version.

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#74 2010-02-18 14:51:59

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

Oh my bad XD

It's the 18th and i thought it was the last day it's in a week the 28 XD


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#75 2010-02-27 16:49:14

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Re: New styles for FluxBB-1.4 - A competition

fluxbb-proposal.png

A design I just started up for the hell of it. Wouldn't be able to code it within deadline but really, I wouldn't mind just donating it when the design is complete.

Just a little something tongue

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