Forking out 1.3 branch?

SuperMAG · 2009-12-20 13:33:33

Lol first of all, that was a joke, including that smarty leaving thing lol. i just though cuz few months ago i got bored and stop coming here and stoped clicking on New Posts Link at top, yet he still didnt. That somehow triggered my mind lol.

As i said, i am still not very very good in english, i didnt know other word to describe people like that other then dum.
About that, I think instead of searching in wiki, people usually post a help post in the forums, and lets keep it that way, if people need help, there is forums for it, unless its a big coding thing, you guys can make few pages for that in about two hrs. but write tutorial on how to move a post or delete a post is just (to most peope) waste of time.

when u install a software, you explore everything in it first. and when you need a thing, you search more. i am not sure someone will be searching in a wiki instead of his forums.

but as i said its not a big issue, we can deal with that when there is a code of 2.0. Like most people around here, i am not intrested in all old forums scripts like 1.2/1.4 or 1.3. i am only intrested in 2.0.

On the other thing, thats why i mentioned OR word between the first and second paragraph.

Make a topic right in this forums, discussing opening steps for 2.0 version. What didnt worked in 1.3 and what needs to be completely rewriten. as i remember, it was extension system, and seperate template system. dont remember other stuff. (With all Developers).

Franz · 2009-12-20 13:50:01

SuperMAG wrote:

About that, I think instead of searching in wiki, people usually post a help post in the forums, and lets keep it that way, if people need help, there is forums for it, unless its a big coding thing, you guys can make few pages for that in about two hrs. but write tutorial on how to move a post or delete a post is just (to most peope) waste of time.

Right. Great idea. Let's just go and re-answer questions over and over again that get asked over and over again to waste even more of our time that we should spend developing the software. It might feel wrong for you now, but it won't be in the long run when we can just tell people to go look at the user guide first.

SuperMAG wrote:

when u install a software, you explore everything in it first.

Not everybody will do that, even less be able to do it.

SuperMAG wrote:

Like most people around here, i am not intrested in all old forums scripts like 1.2/1.4 or 1.3. i am only intrested in 2.0.

Funny that you call a forum version that didn't even get released yet "old". Like most people around here? I have my doubts...

SuperMAG · 2009-12-20 15:16:48

lol, you are trying to answer my questions instead of looking in the other way.

If someone doesnt write guides for now, its ok, most of the people say, who cares, there are just few people, they will answer them myself in forums instead, they just cant write a whole guide for few people. to me this 1.4 is not getting any popular.

i will say it again, its just a small thing, the code is way more important. people will contribute more in a project they are interested in it. which proves why is only few people intrested in 1.4.

i said about 1.4 is old, because it is. some behind the coding scenes updates doesn't make it more interesting, if the difference is like the extension system, everybody will call that huge thing, and alot of people will rejoin or join the project again.

FSX · 2009-12-20 15:24:57

SuperMAG wrote:

i said about 1.4 is old, because it is. some behind the coding scenes updates doesn't make it more interesting, if the difference is like the extension system, everybody will call that huge thing, and alot of people will rejoin or join the project again.

Then we should stop with adding important updates, because they are not interesting?

Reines · 2009-12-20 15:38:43

It sounds like your argument is screw the documentation and screw 1.4, it's not as interesting as working on something new. While maybe true, it's a bad idea and a bad way to approach development, by the time 2.0 was 90% done finishing it wouldn't be an interesting as working on something new, and it'd never get finished either.

Currently we have around 3 or 4 developers actually active, and each of us has our own commitments (for example I now work full time and live with my girlfriend, so have next to no free time - and the couple free hours a day I do get I would quite often rather spend relaxing than working again). Unless community members want to step up and help rather than just criticise, we can't really help things being slow.

Franz · 2009-12-20 15:52:00

SuperMAG wrote:

If someone doesnt write guides for now, its ok, most of the people say, who cares, there are just few people, they will answer them myself in forums instead, they just cant write a whole guide for few people. to me this 1.4 is not getting any popular.

Interesting. Please point me to the survey you seem to have conducted. Why in the world would you think that "most of the people say 'who cares' or 'there are just a few people'? That is entirely your opinion and, as far as I can see, not based on facts.
I understand if people are disappointed about the step back that 1.4 seems to be compared to 1.3. But 1.4 has most of 1.3's features, too, and, as mentioned, the extension system had a few downsides (pretty important ones actually) the way it was implemented.

The rest has been said by FSX and Reines.

SuperMAG · 2009-12-20 17:34:17

mmm, you guys still trying to answer me instead of answering to the solution.

When did exatly i said screw 1.4.

I gave an example, "people will say who cares when there one few people read the wiki of an almost dead project".

1.3 had potential, 1.4 has no potential, 2.0 will have alooot of potential. people will start comparing it to big fishes once its done.

And i never said leave 1.4 in where it is, i though it was little update but it isnt if u look at how much time did that update take.

How many months u guys are working on 1.4. its still not finished, that confuses me, do you guys have any desire to finish 1.4.

It doesn't stop people from planing for next versions.

Once you guys put a plan for 2.0, people will accelerate on finishing 1.4 to start hunting the big fish.

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MattF · 2009-12-20 20:34:43

SuperMAG wrote:

mmm, you guys still trying to answer me instead of answering to the solution.

What solution? Your personal opinion and ideas are exactly that.

Btw, is talking utter crap an intentional choice or just a natural talent?

SuperMAG · 2009-12-20 20:49:51

What ever, just say you guys dont have whatever (time, desire whatever) and you cant work on fluxbb anymore if you dont want to. i just addressed my personal ideas which at least some one posting it, brought a little life to the topic, and the rest is up to u guys.

MattF wrote:

SuperMAG wrote:
mmm, you guys still trying to answer me instead of answering to the solution.
What solution? Your personal opinion and ideas are exactly that.
Btw, is talking utter crap an intentional choice or just a natural talent?

HELOOOOO, not the best person to understand that, may be in few months.

FSX · 2009-12-20 22:35:17

1.4 is done. We are going to release an RC before the end of the year. Then then we fix bugs we encounter. Then we release the final version. Then we start with 2.0 (actively). I expect this takes 2 months (max).

I see no problem.

We have been discussing things about 2.0. About the structure, extension system etc., but we have to finish the thing that we're working on first before we start on something else.

SuperMAG · 2009-12-20 22:43:58

ok thats good. lool that what i was saying. keep up the good work, see u in 2 months lol.

Franz · 2009-12-21 00:15:14

FSX wrote:

1.4 is done. We are going to release an RC before the end of the year. Then then we fix bugs we encounter. Then we release the final version. Then we start with 2.0 (actively). I expect this takes 2 months (max).
I see no problem.
We have been discussing things about 2.0. About the structure, extension system etc., but we have to finish the thing that we're working on first before we start on something else.

SuperMAG wrote:

lool that what i was saying

Right. Interesting. Your account must have been hacked (Note: we're running 1.3 here ) and used by somebody else, too:

That mean guy wrote:

What ever, just say you guys dont have whatever (time, desire whatever) and you cant work on fluxbb anymore if you dont want to. i just addressed my personal ideas which at least some one posting it, brought a little life to the topic, and the rest is up to u guys.

He also wrote:

How many months u guys are working on 1.4. its still not finished, that confuses me, do you guys have any desire to finish 1.4.

Franz · 2009-12-21 00:17:57

P.S.: As this topic is turning into a dogfight (with me participating), I suggest to close it (especially as it has nothing to do with the topic title anymore).

Everything has been said. 1.4 won't take much longer, it is not worthless. There has been quite a lot of discussion going on about 2.0 behind the scenes. Once we get 1.4 released, we'll go into the details, plan everything well (features and implementation) and then start coding. That's the plan. Nothing more to say.

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