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#1 2008-06-05 16:24:06

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1.2.X End of life?

Is there a planned end of life for FluxBB v1.2? Just curious.


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#2 2008-06-05 16:29:26

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

hahahaha

how about a nice idea of mine.

leave the fluxbb/punbb 1.2 to punbb.org

and continue 1.3 development etc for fluxbb

so there will be no support of 1.2 in fluxbb

only 1.2 support continues at punbb.org and punres.org

isnt that fair enough for the punbb.org community

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#3 2008-06-05 16:49:49

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

No, SuperMAG, since FluxBB 1.2.* exists. Support for 1.2 is required here at least for some period of time.

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#4 2008-06-05 16:56:21

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

I guess until 1.3 is released, perhaps a little longer. Since 1.3 really is just an upgrade to 1.2, and not an entirely new version (which would be 2.0).


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#5 2008-06-05 17:06:03

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

I think keeping support for fluxBB 1.2.x is important, at least until the final version of 1.3 is released. As long as 1.3 is in beta or RC version it wouldn't be a good idea to stop supporting 1.2.x.

I don't use 1.2.x and have never used it, mostly since I started out with trying the beta2 and it worked like a charm for me. Still support for the latest stable version is always good!

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#6 2008-06-05 18:07:01

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

Who would start using FluxBB 1.2.* anyways without planning to switch to 1.3 when it is released, anyways?


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#7 2008-06-05 19:41:21

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

lie2815 wrote:

Who would start using FluxBB 1.2.* anyways without planning to switch to 1.3 when it is released

There are plenty of people running 1.2.* who will be in no rush whatsoever to move over to 1.3*


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#8 2008-06-05 19:45:17

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

What means support to 1.2*. It's simply a category in the forum. If somebody continues using it and has problems just to ask there.

It can be available for download for an "old" version.


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#9 2008-06-05 19:48:13

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

Popov: support means rather more than that, it would particularly include security fixes for any newly discovered exploits.


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#10 2008-06-05 20:26:45

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

Of course but I cannot imagine you will continue developing 1.2* after 1.3 has been published. If somebody wonts update 1.3 is here.


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#11 2008-06-05 20:41:19

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

Popov wrote:

Of course but I cannot imagine you will continue developing 1.2* after 1.3 has been published. If somebody wonts update 1.3 is here.

Indeed, because development is not the same as support. I imagine that if any major problems with 1.2.* are discovered, they will be fixed.

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#12 2008-06-05 20:48:03

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

I hope they will still update 1.2. Personally i won'y update to 1.3 until it's gold and until I'am 100% sure it wont crash my database.

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#13 2008-06-05 20:50:08

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

...if any major problems with 1.2.* are discovered, they will be fixed.

Exactly!


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#14 2008-06-05 20:51:57

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

MisterAwesome wrote:

I hope they will still update 1.2. Personally i won'y update to 1.3 until it's gold and until I'am 100% sure it wont crash my database.

Ofcourse they'll support 1.2 until 1.3 is stable... else it wouldn't be released.


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#15 2008-06-05 20:54:49

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

1.3 is an update of 1.2.18

// Version information for an assembly consists of the following four values:
//
//      Major Version
//      Minor Version
//      Build Number
//      Revision
//

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#16 2008-06-05 20:59:50

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

That's nice, Microsoft's versioning schemes have no bearing on anyone else.

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#17 2008-06-05 21:25:23

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

SuperMAG wrote:

hahahaha

how about a nice idea of mine.

leave the fluxbb/punbb 1.2 to punbb.org

and continue 1.3 development etc for fluxbb

so there will be no support of 1.2 in fluxbb

only 1.2 support continues at punbb.org and punres.org

isnt that fair enough for the punbb.org community



I am really sick of reading your idiotic posts. Obviously you have no understanding on how projects work, dropping support for a stable version of your product is by far the most stupidest move to do. Its like dropping an LTS from Ubuntu before the expiry date.


Also, a nice extension would be have an "ignore list", if anyone is keen to develop one.

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#18 2008-06-05 23:00:39

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

OK, lets stay on topic and keep the bashing to a minimum, please? wink

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#19 2008-06-05 23:06:57

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

Tony wrote:
SuperMAG wrote:

hahahaha
how about a nice idea of mine.
leave the fluxbb/punbb 1.2 to punbb.org
and continue 1.3 development etc for fluxbb
so there will be no support of 1.2 in fluxbb
only 1.2 support continues at punbb.org and punres.org
isnt that fair enough for the punbb.org community

I am really sick of reading your idiotic posts. Obviously you have no understanding on how projects work, dropping support for a stable version of your product is by far the most stupidest move to do. Its like dropping an LTS from Ubuntu before the expiry date.

Also, a nice extension would be have an "ignore list", if anyone is keen to develop one.

lol then why you bother to reply. if you like it IGNORE it as you said.
i always like to say my personal openion and i dont care what people think about.
then you guys ack like a child and attack because you didnt like their comment. this is so stupid.
i never saw this in other forums. i need to say appreciate 100 times i need to say nice you are right bla bla bla.

you guys are no better then me ... just throwing bullshit...

i am no developer so i can only help with my suggestion etc. if it helped. if not then it should be ignored or say no. no need for offensive comments etc.

ok back to the topic why did i said that ... let me xplain ...

1- almost are the 1.2 forums are punbb supported ... so why go here and ask questions here that need to be asked there.
2- as you can see there no  much topics in the 1.2 section of flux forum.
3- no mods hosting no style hosting etc.
4- i noticed that the devs of flux are still devs in pun. so whenever there are security updates or some thing like that . they will post there as they said.
5- as for upgrading from 1.2 issues can be discussed at a certain forum or a sticky topic.
6- if i were one of the devs i would feel a little bad for leaving the pun devs like that. i mean antology bought punbb by money. now he lost his devs team . so whats left with him from that project he buyed. some people only hate him because he changed the domain. thats the only bad choice he made for punbb. but he only made it to promote his other sites. any webmaster will do that. and i will not feel unsecure with him just because of that. so thats why i said leave the 1.2 project to him as most of the 1.3 project was done by current devs so they deserve it. he only buyed it from rickard.

and smarty please dont delete this post for being a little off topic.

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#20 2008-06-05 23:20:37

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

SuperMAG wrote:

1- almost are the 1.2 forums are punbb supported ... so why go here and ask questions that need to be asked there.
2- as you can see there no  much topics in the 1.2 section of flux forum.
3- no mods hosting no style hosting etc.
4- i noticed that the devs of flux are still devs in pun. so whenever there are security updates or some thing like that . they will post there as they said.
5- as for upgrading from 1.2 issues can be discussed at a certain forum or a sticky topic.
6- if i were one of the devs i would feel a little bad for leaving the pun devs like. i mean antology bought punbb by money . no he lost his devs team . so wats left with him from that project he buyed. some people only hate him because he changed the domain. thats the only bad choice he made for punbb. and i will not feel unsecure with him just because of that. so thats why i said leave the 1.2 project to him as most of the 1.3 project was done by current devs so they deserve it. he only buyed it from rickard.
and please dont delete this post for being a little off topic.

I would ignore your posts if there were such a feature to do so. I value your opinions like everyone else but some suggestions are just right out of the ball park. They make no sense and contain no relevant meaning.

But anyway, so its like Microsoft ditching Windows 2000? Im sorry but people here do continue to use 1.2, as do people continue to use Windows 2000, why? not only because they know it works but it is assured that it is stable. Who cares if there are no modifications or style hosting, really.

However - I do agree on one part - once 1.3 has being released I believe only security updates should be applied to 1.2.*. But ditching the whole 1.2.* series isn't the way to go.

ONE thing you have to remember, FluxBB is based on PunBB. How isn't this fair to the PunBB community? FluxBB and PunBB are going both separate ways. You're saying 1.3 development is for FluxBB, Im sorry but do you understand what is actually going on here?


Offtopic, referring to my post as childish is by far a horrible call.  Grow up.

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#21 2008-06-06 00:46:12

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

Tony wrote:
SuperMAG wrote:

1- almost are the 1.2 forums are punbb supported ... so why go here and ask questions that need to be asked there.
2- as you can see there no  much topics in the 1.2 section of flux forum.
3- no mods hosting no style hosting etc.
4- i noticed that the devs of flux are still devs in pun. so whenever there are security updates or some thing like that . they will post there as they said.
5- as for upgrading from 1.2 issues can be discussed at a certain forum or a sticky topic.
6- if i were one of the devs i would feel a little bad for leaving the pun devs like. i mean antology bought punbb by money . no he lost his devs team . so wats left with him from that project he buyed. some people only hate him because he changed the domain. thats the only bad choice he made for punbb. and i will not feel unsecure with him just because of that. so thats why i said leave the 1.2 project to him as most of the 1.3 project was done by current devs so they deserve it. he only buyed it from rickard.
and please dont delete this post for being a little off topic.

I would ignore your posts if there were such a feature to do so. I value your opinions like everyone else but some suggestions are just right out of the ball park. They make no sense and contain no relevant meaning.

But anyway, so its like Microsoft ditching Windows 2000? Im sorry but people here do continue to use 1.2, as do people continue to use Windows 2000, why? not only because they know it works but it is assured that it is stable. Who cares if there are no modifications or style hosting, really.

However - I do agree on one part - once 1.3 has being released I believe only security updates should be applied to 1.2.*. But ditching the whole 1.2.* series isn't the way to go.

ONE thing you have to remember, FluxBB is based on PunBB. How isn't this fair to the PunBB community? FluxBB and PunBB are going both separate ways. You're saying 1.3 development is for FluxBB, Im sorry but do you understand what is actually going on here?


Offtopic, referring to my post as childish is by far a horrible call.  Grow up.

oh didnt i say it was MY openion.

even if fluxbb is based on punbb . it has a whole new name and most of the people will not recognize it in future that it was a punbb.  because it dosent have any thing in common. like extension vs mods or current styles vs old ones .. completely different stuff with a completely different name.

my thinking is far advanced then you thought. but if i say all these things as my own openion. i dont think that nether antology will give up the using the 1.3 core in punbb nor fluxbb will change its policy for not completely supporting 1.2.

but i needed to say what i was thinking and my thinking isnt wrong if you considered every thing.

well every one has different mind and different thinking so i dont blame any one for not agreeing, hating me , loving me lol , agree with me etc


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#22 2008-06-06 04:40:42

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

All I wanted was something like: "We'll support it for no longer than 1 year after 1.3 is final unless major security flaws are found." I wasn't expecting silly fights at all. wink

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#23 2008-06-06 07:40:32

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

The users of 1.2.x will anger. tongue

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#24 2008-06-06 08:52:03

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

Dr.Jeckyl wrote:

All I wanted was something like: "We'll support it for no longer than 1 year after 1.3 is final unless major security flaws are found." I wasn't expecting silly fights at all. wink

I know what you mean, this is starting to get out of hand... hmm


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#25 2008-06-06 08:54:32

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Re: 1.2.X End of life?

I thought the dev's had already said they WILL support 1.2.x still for the security fixes.

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