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#1 2008-09-13 20:05:22

Connor
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Logo

I know there are a few topics on this, but there hasn't been any official word yet and we do need a logo.

Here is my contribution, but I wanted to give everyone another chance to make something better before we decide.

flux.png
flux75.png
fluxbb.ico

Feel free to comment.

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#2 2008-09-13 20:52:14

orlandu63
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Re: Logo

I like smile Favicons should be PNGs, not ICOs, though.

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#3 2008-09-13 21:28:10

Reines
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Re: Logo

orlandu63 wrote:

Favicons should be PNGs, not ICOs, though.

since when? I know they can be, but do all browsers support it?

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#4 2008-09-13 21:52:30

Felix
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Re: Logo

PNG is the W3C Standard.

http://www.w3.org/2005/10/howto-favicon

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#5 2008-09-13 22:17:38

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Re: Logo

I think we'll go for favicon.ico as an icon and favicon.png with a rel='icon' to that.

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#6 2008-09-13 22:26:00

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Re: Logo

Look nice if you as me.


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#7 2008-09-13 22:36:07

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Re: Logo

Great logo!

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#8 2008-09-13 22:36:50

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Re: Logo

to be honest i like This one


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#9 2008-09-13 23:25:47

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Re: Logo

Well, I have no idea what relevance at all it has to either Flux or forum software hmm


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#10 2008-09-13 23:38:33

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Re: Logo

I don't like it. It is extremely boring tbqh.

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#11 2008-09-13 23:44:51

Connor
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Re: Logo

shedrock wrote:

I don't like it. It is extremely boring tbqh.

The point of a logo isn't to be exciting, but imo simple and easily recognised.

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#12 2008-09-14 00:01:53

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Re: Logo

That is not necessarily true Connor. That is simply your opinion of what a logo is suppose to be. I was just being honest when I replied. I honestly think the logo should stand out and at least use a variation of colors. As it is right now, FluxBB's layour/design is a basic blue. Why not at least make something bold and eye catching?

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#13 2008-09-14 00:03:38

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Re: Logo

shedrock wrote:

That is not necessarily true Connor. That is simply your opinion of what a logo is suppose to be. I was just being honest when I replied. I honestly think the logo should stand out and at least use a variation of colors. As it is right now, FluxBB's layour/design is a basic blue. Why not at least make something bold and eye catching?

Shedrock

I said imo tongue

and I'm no good at design tongue but I haven't seen anything better (again imo) please feel free to make something bold and eye catching.

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#14 2008-09-14 01:03:49

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Re: Logo

The overall design shape is ok - nice and simple (allows the small icon version to work). But it is a bit cold and flat (too 2d). Adding a bit of color would warm it up and extruding it out just a bit into the third dimension, button style, and adding a touch of highlighting and shadow would help a lot IMO.

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#15 2008-09-14 07:25:49

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Re: Logo

The issue with colors is that FluxBB don't have one (or two). If the future of Flux is like what PunBB was, it has by default half a dozen different colors scheme (I had quite a shock when I moved here from PunBB and my usual Mercury theme wasn't around, only this bad ugly blue-ish...). And the logo has probably to handle several color scheme, various background colors, etc.

Also remember that a logo is made to last. What's in, what's hype these days might be out next year. The classic design is probably the best one in the long run.

I like the Connor's one, but I also liked a lot benm's one. I think I prefer benm's (the second ones, two post down) probably in black&white&greyscale.

Last edited by Jérémie (2008-09-14 07:28:07)

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#16 2008-09-14 07:52:41

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Re: Logo

shedrock wrote:

I honestly think the logo should stand out and at least use a variation of colors. As it is right now, FluxBB's layour/design is a basic blue. Why not at least make something bold and eye catching?

It does all come down to personal opinion, though I think it is really good, and fits perfectly with the idea of FluxBB being clean and simple without any bloat. Not trying to be offensive, though if your avatar is the kinda thing your after, I totally disagree tongue

Jérémie wrote:

The issue with colors is that FluxBB don't have one (or two). If the future of Flux is like what PunBB was, it has by default half a dozen different colors scheme (I had quite a shock when I moved here from PunBB and my usual Mercury theme wasn't around, only this bad ugly blue-ish...). And the logo has probably to handle several color scheme, various background colors, etc.

I am pretty sure that is because there is no point in making various skins while the stylesheet is still under development. Hopefully we should have a few more official skins made during RC1 ready for the final release.

Jérémie wrote:

I like the Connor's one, but I also liked a lot benm's one. I think I prefer benm's (the second ones, two post down) probably in black&white&greyscale.

They are not bad, though personally I prefer Connor's one (maybe some colour would be nice, though it would have to depend on where it was being used etc.), and it also has some relevancy to FluxBB.

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#17 2008-09-14 10:48:30

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I find the shapes to mismatch too much. (the outer round, and the oval inner part) ... I find the large icon hard to watch, but the smaller ones isn't as obvious.

(And I don't get what in that logo that is "flux" smile)

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#18 2008-09-14 10:55:25

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Re: Logo

Frank H wrote:

(And I don't get what in that logo that is "flux" smile)

It use the mathematical flux glyph.

But that's not even that big a deal, frankly it could use anything it doesn't matter.

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#19 2008-09-14 11:01:25

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Re: Logo

If u make a contest and set deadlines when the work must be submitted i will compete.

But you must then choose one and use it. I don't care if the users choose it or if the developers choose it.

If you are up to it and like the idea i will compete.

But the rules must be set. Like the rules for:

-what sizes samples must be attached
-the work must be a authors work not some picture from the internet
-the material is then used as it is not yust as an idea of what it should be and altered
-author must agree that fluxbb can freeley use the logo forever

If u do it something like that i will "compete" otherwise no. otherwise choose one or use the one you made and the story ends there.

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#20 2008-09-14 11:17:38

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Re: Logo

@ Connor

That's the wrong symbol. You need to use an upper-case Phi. A lower-case Phi has nothing to do with 'flux'. See here (Magnetic Flux).

Last edited by liquidat0r (2008-09-14 11:17:56)

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#21 2008-09-14 11:24:26

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Re: Logo

Ah yes, a minor difference that.
Edit: Actually, in Arial there's not really a difference between the two, and Connor does seem to be using the right one hmm

Last edited by elbekko (2008-09-14 11:28:13)


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#22 2008-09-14 11:28:07

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Re: Logo

I'm not a graphic artist myself, but I know a lot about logo design and this one doesn't comply with a lot of logo design rules.

It might be a good idea to use phi for the logo, but I think the character has to be abstracted and mutated to work well in all sizes and to have more relevance to the key points fluxbb stands for.

Please consider not to use Web2.0 style logos with extrusions, shadows and highlights, that is something which doesn't fit to fluxbb at all.

I think a contest would be a very good thing, because you get a lot of proposals to choose from. I might ask a graphic desginer friend of mine to participate as well.


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#23 2008-09-14 11:55:01

Jérémie
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Re: Logo

If a contest is run (which is probably a good idea, if the dev wants to), please don't forget some key points:

- are bitmap (non vector) submissions allowed? If yes, set the native size and resolution asked for (A4 300dpi for example).
- is straight downscaling (image->reduce) to 16×16 (favicon) size mandatory, or is a variation on the same theme allowed for that size? Straight downscaling to 16×16 may not be a good idea, because we don't really need a favion pixel by pixel identical to the actual logo, imo.
- what's the minimal size required for straight downscaling?
- is there a mandatory color scheme?
- is alpha transparency allowed (if you really want IE6 compatibility and be able to place it over a textured background for example, alpha transparency will be a pain in the ass)?
- what kind of environment color scheme (like color background) will he needs to be compatible with?

And don't forget the license slight issue wink

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#24 2008-09-14 11:56:26

Jérémie
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Re: Logo

liquidat0r wrote:

@ Connor
That's the wrong symbol. You need to use an upper-case Phi. A lower-case Phi has nothing to do with 'flux'. See here (Magnetic Flux).

He used the right symbol:

Φ is upper case, symbol for magnetic flux
φ is lower case, which he didn't use

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#25 2008-09-14 12:17:42

Connor
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Re: Logo

Christian wrote:

I'm not a graphic artist myself, but I know a lot about logo design and this one doesn't comply with a lot of logo design rules.

Can you be more specific?

Christian wrote:

It might be a good idea to use phi for the logo, but I think the character has to be abstracted and mutated to work well in all sizes and to have more relevance to the key points fluxbb stands for.

If you have a better idea, feel free to give it.

Frank H wrote:

I find the shapes to mismatch too much. (the outer round, and the oval inner part) ... I find the large icon hard to watch, but the smaller ones isn't as obvious.

We will probably never use the large one so its not so important



I did not think running a formal contest was needed, lots of people have posted ideas in the other threads, but I don't really like any of them for us. I made this thread to give everyone another chance to post any ideas, I don't see why making a contest changes the situation, you can post your ideas anyway.

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