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#26 Re: Feature requests » New slogan. » 2010-09-26 22:30:59

hcgtv

Looks like PunBB changed their slogan to: Lightweight PHP-based Forum

So I guess FluxBB can keep the Matrix themed slogan.

#27 Re: Show off » FluxBB at PHPXref » 2010-09-10 23:44:20

hcgtv

Here's the new Cross Reference of FluxBB 1.4.2.

It's a complete rework of the presentation layer, there's quite a lot of changes, too many to list here. I still have some things on my to do list but I'm getting cabin fever staring at code and subsequent output that I thought I'd better let others have a peek to balance things out.

On the FluxBB CrossRef, the main thing that stands out is the copyright notice showing up as documentaion, I was going to do a replace of line 3's /** with /* but thought it was up to you guys. Also, Git makes every file have the same date, wonder if there's a way to keep true modification dates when creating releases?

Let me know what you think, suggestions, critiques welcome.

#28 Re: General support (1.4) » What is best "current" way to stop SPAM » 2010-09-03 11:13:31

hcgtv

We need a Spam page on the wiki, since it's a much asked for topic.

I just don't know where to add it, can one of the devs add the page where they would like to see it and we can add content?

#29 Re: Modifications (1.4) » Stop Forum Spam mod » 2010-08-29 15:46:20

hcgtv
Reines wrote:

I actually started writing one of these, quite literally, a couple days ago: https://fluxbb.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=4582

Sorry, must of missed the posting. I'll go bother you over there.

Reines wrote:

The code already exists which we use here, it just needs tidied up slightly.

Yeah, I'm looking at the diff you posted about what measures you have in place here, which prompted me to wonder why a mod didn't exist.

#30 Modifications (1.4) » Stop Forum Spam mod » 2010-08-29 02:51:56

hcgtv
Replies: 2

The Stop Forum Spam service seems to be picking up steam.

This forum is using it, and I would imagine the SFS forum, which uses FluxBB also uses it. So I think it would make an excellent official mod, so that other users can take advantage of it.

Today, I checked the latest registrations on my forum against the SFS database and found many matches. Stopping spammers at the registration point would put us at ease, since we wouldn't have to worry so much about spam in posts, though I would still run Akismet, just in case.

Hopefully the SFS service will continue, cause by the looks of it, humans registering for pay appears to be on the rise, with the economy being what it is. Most of the registrations are coming from the United States, at pennies per registration, if they hit my forum you can bet they're coming for yours.

#31 Re: General support (1.4) » Limiting width of Forum? » 2010-08-28 22:21:51

hcgtv

In air.css:

/* Page Layout
----------------------------------------------------------------*/

.pun {
    padding: 0;
    margin: 30px auto;
    width: 970px;
}

#punredirect, #punmaint {
    width: 600px;
    margin: 60px auto;
    padding: 0 185px; 
}

Edit: added punredirect and punmaint so your messages are centered also.

#32 Re: Feature requests » Anti Spam in core » 2010-08-27 15:36:20

hcgtv
Gil wrote:

In the same way, what about an (inscription option of) automatic deletion of users if no there are no posts after a time-out, one or two days by default?

Gil, for now you can use Connor's User Management plugin on the PunBB.org downloads page. It works fine on FluxBB 1.2.23, which is the version I run at hcgtv.net. That particular plugin and Connor's Forum Cleanup plugin are prime candidates to be brought over to FluxBB and checked against 1.4.2.

With the help of the User Management plugin, that I run every morning, I've trimmed down number of users from over 25,000 to just 179 in a few days.
My parameters, from the rules page:
4. Any email registrations not confirmed within 24 hours will have their user profile deleted.
5. Should you confirm your email, but fail to post within 7 days, your user profile will get deleted.

Once I'm comfortable that using the above parameters are having an effect, I'll copy out the appropriate lines from the User Management plugin and create a standalone php file, with hardcoded parameters, that I can call from a daily cron job.

These are the top 10 countries hitting hcgtv.net: United States, Israel, China, India, Poland, Russian Federation, Pakistan, Germany, Greece, Philippines. Next up, I'm thinking of selectively excluding a country at a time from registering to see what effect it has, just curious where the majority of the human spammers are coming from.

There's a lot of Pun/Flux forums out there with 1,000's of users that can be trimmed. Yeah it might look great that your forum has 15,000 members, but unless you plan on being the next Facebook, you're leaving open spam holes where a user that looked benign one day, decides to sign back on and change his or her signature or website link to point to fake Gucci bags.

Personally, I'm tired of people that rather than contribute to the Net, are just using it peddle their wares or to game search rankings. Many years ago, I disabled commenting on all my sites, it became a nightmare to manage, since I moderated each and every comment.

Windows greets me in the morning with an assuring female voice telling me that my anti-virus has been updated. Our web-apps should give us the same feeling, that they're looking out for us, protecting us, female voice optional.

#33 Re: FluxBB discussion » "Header" in PHP files » 2010-08-26 19:40:12

hcgtv

Actually, the first line containing /** triggers documentation, see the PHPDoc specs.

Were the first line to be /*, then documentation efforts wouldn't pick up the copyright as inline docs.

So I agree with adaur.

#34 Re: Feature requests » Anti Spam in core » 2010-08-26 17:29:26

hcgtv
Reines wrote:

Maybe if we made user profiles hidden to guests by default, then they might eventually figure it out and give up?

With measures in place, from a default install, over time the registrations should ease up. At this point they just register out of habit, since they don't realize it will make no sense at all on the latest FluxBB 1.4.2.

Some more ideas:
* Have an option to not show users with 0 posts in the user list.
* User management plugin by Connor shipped as default, it's what I've been using to trim out users that never confirm their registrations (over 11,000 deleted by this plugin at hcgtv.net).
* These two threads at phpBB offer more measures they've implemented, from 2006 and 2009.

Reines wrote:

The only other solution I can think of is to make the registration process to much hassle to be worth it, but obviously that would affect real users too so isn't an option.

I think it's about making it not worth it to register anymore. As for those that think that captchas will make it hard for those with disabilities to register, well you can use Flite to read them the generated text. Flite is installed at Dreamhost, my hosting provider, so it should be on others, if not, then just ask for it.

What I would like to see are various options for the admin to chose from, like quy mentions, there's also textcaptcha. One of the nicer spam solutions in a forum is the spam_hurdles module from Phorum. There's no reason to reinvent the wheel, Rickard knew that, here too, and here.

After all, it's about collectively fighting these bots and human spammers. Let the spammers go find another open forum to pick on, they'll end up seeing what FluxBB did and the cycle will get repeated. Eventually, like the fiasco that was trackbacks, bots and spammers will just have to find somewhere else to peddle their wares.

#35 Re: Feature requests » Anti Spam in core » 2010-08-26 04:52:38

hcgtv

Yesterday, I updated a forum running a mixture of PunBB 1.2.x and security updates from the stable FluxBB 1.2.x branch to a stable FluxBB 1.2.23 release.

I've got some really bad news to report, my registrations jumped from an average of 5 to 10 a day to 27 yesterday and 49 so far today. On this forum, the user list link on the top navigation wasn't being shown to guests nor members, though they could still key in userlist.php in the url, and I wasn't linking to user profiles for newest member or the online list. I see FluxBB 1.4.2 has these measures in place, glad to see them, but it's not deterring human registrations, sad to say.

This afternoon, I installed the very simple bot registration mod and left the standard arithmetic questions in place, I got 6 registrations in a very short period of time. I changed the questions to text based answers, like "Where is Paris?", and the human registrations continued, another 8 so far. User ids vsabr and vsabr2 mark the spot where I implemented these measures.

What I don't get, is why would someone take the time to register on a forum, where the web spiders don't index the user list nor the links in the footer to the user profiles? They do verify their registrations, so as to change their group_id from 32000 to 4, but they never post. Should they post, Akismet is waiting, but it hasn't been needed for quite sometime. I do lament not seeing Russian porn ads greeting me in the morning on the Aksimet admin screen, but on the other hand I'm glad it has deterred spam.

All I can say, and I've said it before, is that PunBB has been a very easy target for a very long time. The last couple of days proves one thing to me, that FluxBB is an even bigger target. I truly don't have the answer to the bot/spam riddle, and by the look of this thread, I don't think anybody does. But one thing is for certain, either you start fighting these assh*les in the core, with the best measures at hand, or your small project will not grow it's user base.

The simple reason that these measures have to be core, is that very few users are willing to install mods, which leaves a very high percentage of forums vulnerable, so the script kiddies and human slaves with a list of "Powered by FluxBB" at their disposal, can and will continue to screw with all of us.

One last thing, food for thought, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that FluxBB is GPL code. Any enterprising individual can take the 1.4.2 branch, slap on some anti bot/spam measures and re-release under another name.

This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill - the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill - you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.

Morpheus to Neo in the movie The Matrix.

#37 Re: General support (1.4) » Redirect page, slightly off center » 2010-08-24 18:35:38

hcgtv

I believe the reason you don't see it here is because you wrap the forum using:

.site .main-inner {
    margin: 0 auto;
    width: 900px;
    overflow: hidden;
}

While we would need to use .pun for our basic needs, that is if that's the correct way of doing it.

#38 Re: Feature requests » Make Fluxbb integrable with CMS's and other applications » 2010-08-15 19:51:32

hcgtv

Hey Insert,

When I was using Nucleus CMS, we worked on a plugin to integrate with PunBB.

NP_PunBB plugin features:
* Adds all Nucleus users, items and comments from the plugin options screen.
* Adds new Nucleus user to PunBB from the createaccount.html process.
* Adds new Nucleus items to PunBB topics, can be toggled per post.
* Template var link to forum topic, with number of replies at the forum.
* Category option to map categories to forums, click edit next to category.

With the plugin I would create a story on the front page and hand over commenting to the forum. Since it read the replies from the forum, you could display comments(23) in the story's footer. Whatever category you gave the story, it would be routed to the appropriate forum.

The code could be used as the basis for a Wordpress plugin.

#39 Re: Feature requests » Keep recent posts in footer » 2010-08-14 16:08:07

hcgtv

adaur, you may have bad English but you have good PHP smile

Now if we could only have custom user footers...

#40 Feature requests » Keep recent posts in footer » 2010-08-14 00:17:07

hcgtv
Replies: 2

I've never used the Jump list, don't know if anyone else does. So whenever I make a reply or view a thread to see what's up, all the while coming from Recent Posts, I have no easy way to get back to the list I was looking at, so I can continue looking at recent activity.

For me, recent posts is like the most important link of all, followed by search. That is if you're a frequent visitor to a particular forum.

I would keep the following in the footer for all signed in members:
bull.png Recent posts bull.png Unanswered posts bull.png Subscribed topics bull.png Your posts

#41 Re: Show off » FluxBB at PHPXref » 2010-08-13 23:56:56

hcgtv
FSX wrote:

It works now. smile

Wow, looks like a bug report to the Chromium issues list is in order. I was looking over their issues, and there are reports of the browser failing to display content on certain conditions.

Thanks for testing things out.

#42 General support (1.4) » Redirect page, slightly off center » 2010-08-13 21:41:27

hcgtv
Replies: 4

Working on a local copy of 1.4.2 and I noticed something odd.

In the administration side, whenever I press submit, the redirect page appears more to the right, not centered.

I have changed air.css to be fixed width, did this:

.pun {
    padding: 0;
    margin: 30px auto;
    width: 970px;
}

Am I causing this problem?

#43 Re: Show off » FluxBB at PHPXref » 2010-08-13 19:26:38

hcgtv
FSX wrote:

Chromium gave me an error about an unclosed H3 tag. After looking it up it looks like a H2 header is opened, but closed with a H3 tag.

That's what I get for coding in my sleep wink

Try it now, FluxBB 1.4.2, thanks.

#44 General support (1.4) » Anti-bot and spam for 1.4.2 » 2010-08-13 18:24:56

hcgtv
Replies: 0

I want to put up a FluxBB 1.4.2 board in a live setting to test out different approaches for combating bots and spam.

For bots: Very simple anti-bot registration sounds light enough for my needs.

For spam: I've used the Akismet mod in the past with great success, I did have to update the class to ease slow down, but I see FSX has an update.

Do the above approaches sound good or are there other recommendations?

Oh, and remember guys, should you have an erection that lasts for more than 4 hours, please seek medical attention wink

#45 Re: Show off » FluxBB at PHPXref » 2010-08-13 17:54:42

hcgtv
FSX wrote:

I use Chromium 5.0.375.125 (0). I cleared the cache (and cookies), but that didn't help. hmm And it works fine in Opera and Swiftfox.

Chromium, I've been meaning to install Chrome on my system, just for testing purposes.

Let's try this, turn off Javascript and then surf to the page, see if it shows up. The W3c.org site is telling me end tag for element "A" which is not open on some Javascript code, but the code looks fine to me.

#46 Re: Show off » FluxBB at PHPXref » 2010-08-13 15:42:02

hcgtv
FSX wrote:

When I click an variables/functions/classes/constants and then click on an item in the list I only see a white box. It looks like the text color is white.

That's strange, could it be a cache or cookie issue? What browser and operating system do you use?

I've tested it on Windows XP(Firefox, Opera, IE8) and Linux(Firefox).

#47 Re: Show off » FluxBB at PHPXref » 2010-08-13 08:38:40

hcgtv

I've been working on making the cross references look a little better, still have a lot more work to do but I ran FluxBB 1.4.2 through with what I've done so far.

http://phpxref.com/xref/fluxbb/

Some of the changes:
1. Increased font sizes, my eyes needed the break.
2. Nicer icons on the files listing from FamFamFam.
3. GitHub gave me the inspiration for the source view page.
4. Ran the Javascript files thru the YUI compressor.
5. No more Adsense, these days their Javascript files take up too much weight.

Overall, pages load very quickly, FluxBB's index page weighs in at 17KB.

Let me know what you think, font choices, colors, what have you.

#48 Re: Show off » FluxBB at PHPXref » 2010-08-10 17:20:49

hcgtv

The FluxBB 1.4.2 Xref is up.

Love cross referencing small code projects, keeps my processor from overheating wink

Edit: Forgot to mention that a file called pax_global_header made it into the distribution.

#49 Re: FluxBB discussion » what do you want fluxbb to do in the near future » 2010-08-10 15:20:11

hcgtv
taylorchu wrote:

I really love fluxbb for its simplicity and fast speed.

taylorchu wrote:

- leave punbb alone: I notice that fluxbb still uses punbb's code and template. I think fluxbb should have its own way.

"One cannot say of something that it is and that it is not in the same respect and at the same time."
Aristotle

#50 Re: Core development » FluxBB with certain mods shipped installed » 2010-08-10 01:09:30

hcgtv
Franz wrote:

There's a whole discussion on the anti spam in core topic.

Had I read that thread, which I just did, I wouldn't of made the original post on this thread.

I understand all the arguments, but other forums have measures shipped with core, and they are quite effective. Maybe Pun/Flux has been getting targeted because there is no default protection, while other forums ship with something that the admin can turn on. In other words, it's a free for all.

I'm not going to name a competitor, but I admin a forum for another project, it ships with anti-bot and ant-spam as a module. When I installed said forum, 2 and 1/2 years ago, I enabled the module. There is next to nothing as far as bots signing up, and I got my first admin email the other day notifying me of a spam message by a concerned user.

Measures may work or not, but what really works is that sign in the front of the house proclaiming that a security alarm is in place, even if it's bullshit.

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