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	<title type="html"><![CDATA[FluxBB.org Forums - FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
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	<updated>2008-06-04T04:26:58Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6602/#p6602"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=MichaelBluejay]So, um, is there an ETA for 1.3 Beta 3?[/quote]

Your answer is in this thread: [url]http://fluxbb.org/forums/topic/793/fluxbb-13-beta-3-postponed/[/url]]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[kpdesign]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/30/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-04T04:26:58Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6602/#p6602</id>
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		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6597/#p6597"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[So, um, is there an ETA for 1.3 Beta 3?]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[MichaelBluejay]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/307/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-04T01:51:17Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6597/#p6597</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6470/#p6470"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Smartys][quote=StevenBullen]Dont take this the wrong way.
But! Please dont give deadlines in the future. I wouldnt mind so much but it is really not required and personally I think it makes Flux look bad. Im guessing a deadline was something that rickard would of stopped. ;)[/quote]
Deadlines are always difficult. People always ask for them, since just having releases randomly pop up can be difficult. Developers always find them difficult to follow, since there always seems to be more stuff to do, distractions that get in the way, etc.
I don't think the solution is to abandon deadlines. Without deadlines, we might as well be in an endless loop of adding new features and testing them. That was part of the reason we put a deadline in for this release: so we would have a feature freeze at a given point and from then on work on polishing the code, fixing bugs, etc. What we need to do, however, is to be more accountable for our deadlines. We need to be more proactive in making sure we meet them.

That being said, I found out I won't be here in 3 hours, when I was supposed to "release" the beta. That, coupled with the fact that people have been asking me not to release until we have the markup, which is one of the most important changes in the beta, means I'm simply going to be providing a link to download the current revision without releasing it as the beta. Once we have the markup in place, we'll release the beta for real.

[url=http://fluxbb.org/trac/changeset/248/fluxbb/branches/fluxbb-1.3-dev?old_path=%2F&format=zip]You can download the current revision using this link[/url][/quote]]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Smartys]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/2/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-03T16:17:11Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6470/#p6470</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6469/#p6469"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[03.06.08 and still not available beta3, why?]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[achos]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/250/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-03T16:16:40Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6469/#p6469</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6424/#p6424"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Vote for him !!]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Defaz]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/55/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-03T13:22:25Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6424/#p6424</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6419/#p6419"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[He is Tom DeLay.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Meow]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/58/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-03T11:43:39Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6419/#p6419</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6416/#p6416"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[LOL !!]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[MathsIsFun]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/46/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-03T11:38:38Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6416/#p6416</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6410/#p6410"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Tom_Delay_old_pix.jpg[/img]]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Meow]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/58/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-03T11:04:09Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6410/#p6410</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6405/#p6405"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[[quote=Meow]Delay again.[/quote]
Don't mind what she says. Just a pretty girl.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[adama]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/61/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-03T10:54:53Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6405/#p6405</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6382/#p6382"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[I don't mind delays if it results in a better product. ;)]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[eternal243]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/312/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-03T07:22:43Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6382/#p6382</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6365/#p6365"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Delay again.]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Meow]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/58/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-03T04:33:59Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6365/#p6365</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6332/#p6332"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Take it easy. I'll wait for the real release beta 3. ;)]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[adama]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/61/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-02T23:41:58Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6332/#p6332</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6313/#p6313"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Wasn't fluxbb the spin off since Rickard at punbb.org didn't have enough time?
Ironic? =D Cheers!]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[ftornell]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/327/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-02T19:44:31Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6313/#p6313</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6311/#p6311"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Few days sooner or later, it doesn't matter.
Good luck!
Let b3 be a real release ;)]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Vovochka]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/56/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-02T18:50:37Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6311/#p6311</id>
		</entry>
		<entry>
			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: FluxBB 1.3 Beta3 - June 1st 2008]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6309/#p6309"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[Do it best!
Don't worry about the release time!]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[Popov]]></name>
				<uri>http://fluxbb.org/forums/user/233/</uri>
			</author>
			<updated>2008-06-02T18:46:52Z</updated>
			<id>http://fluxbb.org/forums/post/6309/#p6309</id>
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