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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Paginate]]></title>
			<link>http://fluxbb.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=25041#p25041</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Would be nice to hear other peoples thoughts on this. Like I said above: I think using &lt; and &gt; for the previous and next links would look much cleaner and take up less space.</p><p>Compare:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i27.tinypic.com/28ko7j7.jpg" alt="28ko7j7.jpg" /></span></p><p>with:</p><p><span class="postimg"><img src="http://i31.tinypic.com/2vbaexh.jpg" alt="2vbaexh.jpg" /></span></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Koos)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 15:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Paginate]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Paul wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I think next and previous links have become standard. I certainly expect to see them whenever I&#039;m viewing paginated content. If they are too verbose in some languages then its just a matter of substituting + and - in the langauge file or whatever symbol you happen to prefer (laquo and raquo or not really a good idea as I think most people would read those as first and last, better just to use &lt; and &gt;).</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That would look much better - if&#160; &#039;Previous&#039; and &#039;Next&#039; in the lang file could just be replaced with &lt; and &gt; as you mentioned. Invision Power Board and vBulletin also display their previous and next links by using &lt; and &gt;. Could this change perhaps be made in the core?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Koos)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 17:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Cheers for that explanation Paul. <img src="http://fluxbb.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MattF)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 Jul 2009 04:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>A large target area to hit. That of course could be remedied by making the numbered links larger like 1.3. I think there is a possible accessibility benefit where there is a large number of pages. Somebody using a screenreader might loose track of which page they are on and if that happens hitting next solves the problem. </p><p>Changing the language strings to empty is not a good idea, not unless the generation of the links was made conditional upon the langauge string having a value. Otherwise you would end up with an empty link tag. I would actually prefer making them vanish with css which leaves them in place for screenreaders and text browsers. If the link tag were given a class then it would also be possible to substitute a background img (an arrow or something) as well as making them vanish. You just give the link zero width which removes the text and enough left/right padding for the graphic.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Paul)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 18:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Paginate]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>qubertman wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><div class="quotebox"><cite>MattF wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>...so that they can at least be hidden if desired?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Change the language entries for Previous/Next links to an empty string.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s my muppet moment for the week highlighted and done. <img src="http://fluxbb.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><br /><div class="quotebox"><cite>Paul wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>Mattf: in the end it will be upto the devs whether they stay in or not. I was just offering an opinion.</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Apologies. <img src="http://fluxbb.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> I thought you were still the one who had final say on all things markup related. <img src="http://fluxbb.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Just out of curiosity, what other benefits, (other than the obvious visual markers), do those prev/next links have?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MattF)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 17:10:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Paginate]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Mattf: in the end it will be upto the devs whether they stay in or not. I was just offering an opinion.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Paul)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 15:31:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Paginate]]></title>
			<link>http://fluxbb.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=24636#p24636</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MattF wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>...so that they can at least be hidden if desired?</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Change the language entries for Previous/Next links to an empty string.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (quy)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 14:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Paul wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>I think next and previous links have become standard. I certainly expect to see them whenever I&#039;m viewing paginated content. If they are too verbose in some languages then its just a matter of substituting + and - in the langauge file or whatever symbol you happen to prefer (laquo and raquo or not really a good idea as I think most people would read those as first and last, better just to use &lt; and &gt;).</p></div></blockquote></div><p>They&#039;re obviously stopping in, by the sounds of it, so would it not be best to at least put them in span tags or suchlike, (if they aren&#039;t already), so that they can at least be hidden if desired?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MattF)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Paginate]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>I think next and previous links have become standard. I certainly expect to see them whenever I&#039;m viewing paginated content. If they are too verbose in some languages then its just a matter of substituting + and - in the langauge file or whatever symbol you happen to prefer (laquo and raquo or not really a good idea as I think most people would read those as first and last, better just to use &lt; and &gt;).</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Paul)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 20:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Paginate]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Just keep the original, and add a small entry field for the page to the right of the numbers - everyone wins!</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (xSDMx)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Paginate]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Maybe just add in some classes so the links can be hidden/styled via CSS?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (trichome)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 21:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Paginate]]></title>
			<link>http://fluxbb.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=24615#p24615</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>So has a final decision been taken on this matter?</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Koos)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Paginate]]></title>
			<link>http://fluxbb.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=24516#p24516</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>Would it not be better to make the default as was with the new format being a selectable option? Personally, I agree with Koos. I much prefer the old format.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (MattF)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 18:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Paginate]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your response Xzorg6, but I am talking about the default forum behavior.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Koos)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Paginate]]></title>
			<link>http://fluxbb.org/forums/viewtopic.php?pid=24456#p24456</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<p>You can change the word in the language file if you want...</p><p>I use signs &amp;laquo; and &amp;raquo; on my forum : <a href="http://forum.sonataarctica.fr/viewtopic.php?id=997&amp;p=2">Example</a><br />As I say on the first post. </p><p>Thus, in some language, as french words (&quot;Précédente&quot; and &quot;Suivante&quot;), that takes more space.</p>]]></description>
			<author><![CDATA[dummy@example.com (Xzorg6)]]></author>
			<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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